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Why eBay is so cool.

A poster in this forum sent a link to an interesting item on eBay right now. A mint, unrestored copy of Amazing Fantasy 15, the 1962 comic in which Spider-man made his first appearance. What is interesting is not just the fact that this is one of the rarest comics in human history – the seller seems to be a believer in fair play, in his own words, and refuses to end the auction even though people have made flat offers ( someone made an offer of 20000$ and he refused!) And on top of that, he has volunteered to pay 15% of the winnings to the HERO initiative, a benefit for retired comic book creators.

Check out the eBay item here, and the answers to all the questions the seller has been asked so far here.

And since I remembered this just in time – you need to have an eBay account to read a seller’s answers, here is the complete listing of Q&A behind a cut. Read it bottom to top.

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Mmmmm…bueno!

Excellente!

I bought a page from this eBay seller two months ago. A page from The Moth, this wild indie comic created by Steve Rude and Gary Martin, with Martin, Rude’s primary inker on Nexus, providing the dialogues as well on this series.

When I was about to pay the seller, I noticed the address he had added on his invoice, in case I wanted to send him a money order. As it turned out, it was Gary Martin himself, selling his page. Mailed him and talked about how cool his work was, and asked him if he had other pages for sale. Turns out he had, and agreed to sell them to me at cheap ( and I mean REALLY cheap prices). We agreed on a time-payment scheme and I ended up buying 5 pages off him. A month later, the payment was complete, and Gary sent the pages off, promising to inform me whenever he put up his Nexus pages for sale. The pages from the older series are all gone, but there is a new storyline coming out in Summer 2007, and I get first crack at them, yay!

And today I got the pages in the mail, and I found that Gary has also sent a volume of his book on comic book inking free with the package. Inside is inscribed “To my #1 fan in India, thanks for all the support”, followed by his signature. How cool is that? I just can’t stop grinning!!

I have uploaded all but one of pages to my comicartfans gallery, and you can check them out right here.

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New Comics Day

This year, I shook myself off eBay a bit. Just a teeny-weeny bit, mind you. Part of it was because of dumb luck – I am a member of this community called , and some LJ user put up a post sometime in the middle of the year that a friend of his was selling off a couple of comics. Out of curiousity, more than anything else, I clicked on the link to his LJ, where he had listed the comics and the prices down, and discovered that the guy was selling the complete Liberty Meadows for 15$. Bargain time! I shot off an email, and got a reply pretty soon, with a price breakdown. But goddarnit, someone beat me to Liberty Meadows. But Brady, the seller managed to coerce me with a fresh list of comics. Nice combination of trade paperbacks and single issues for enticing prices. And he even promised discounts.

So I got cracking. Tried ordering a small bunch at first, and got them very soon through some colleagues in the States. And then me and Brady began to break down the payments into time-based amounts. At the end of it, I was about 800 dollars lighter, and a back-breakingly heavy bunch of comics wound their way to 2fargon‘s place. Including complete runs of Hellboy, Cerebus, Tom Strong, Conan ( The Dark Horse series), a near-complete Warren Ellis bibliography.

A month or so later, Brady came back with a new list. He was liquidating his entire comicbook collection – with the exception of two series, Starman and Usagi Yojimbo, both of which I was looking for desperately, and was giving me first crack at it. The stuff that he was selling included quite a bit of Warren Ellis again, all his indie work, complete runs of Ex Machina, Essential Spiderman, Bendis’s Daredevil run, quite a bit of which I already had, Hellblazer – and loads of other great swag.

I bought out his entire collection.

The explanation I offered myself was that I could very easily sell off my existing duplicate copies. Also, with a complete haul, it makes it easier for us to come up with a consolidated amount. Plus, he was offering free international shipping. After the first two months of the payment, he sent off the first package. The package was supposed to take two months to arrive, and I eagerly waited for those two months to pass. By the time it was October 19th, I was practically salivating with glee. I made it a point to cheerily greet the postman every morning when he landed at the office. All the office guards knew I was expecting a package, and the moment it arrived, they were to call me, regardless of how busy I was.

It didn’t arrive. No problem, my stoic self told my foaming-at-the-mouth-and-at-the-brink-of-tears persona, give it three months, and then we’ll see. After all, trackable packages don’t get lost, they do get misplaced sometimes.

By the time November 19th came around, I was on my way to completely losing it. More so because November 19th was a Sunday, so I had to wait until Monday before I knew whether the parcel was here or not. Nope. No go. Went to the Post office on Tuesday , to verify if the package was there. Nope. No go. Went to the customs office on Wednesday, with The Flatmate, and then the post office at the airport to ask around. Extremely polite bunch of people, but they had no clue of how to track a USPS number. Came back and wrote off a mail to Brady to start tracking the package at his end. It would take 60 days to find out its whereabouts.

And today, it arrived. Flatmate is away in Bangalore, so had a gala time hauling 25-odd kilos up three flights of stairs. Spent a happy half an hour ogling at the contents.

The Loot, with annotations

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Blah!

Ok, first time I’m listening to Guru ( AR Rahman, Mani Rathnam, Gulzar. Well? What are you waiting for?), and everything seems to be going hunky-dory. ‘Mayya’, the fourth track starts up. This is the song that has Mallika Sherawat doing an item number in the film. And GODDAMNIT!!! Rahman uses a flute sample which has been done to death. Two songs I remember using the same flute piece are ‘San Sanana’ from Asoka and a Safri Duo track ( Most likely ‘Snakefood’). Grrrrr.

I got a mail from Planet M, and as usual it landed up in my spam box. But I am a smart guy, so I go check my spambox every now and then before I say “delete all”. The mail said I get a 20% off for two weeks in Planet M, and needless to say, was mucho pleased. Went yesterday to Planet M ( to pick up Guru, of course), saw that the extended version of Season 2 of Lost is out, and went over to the salesmen with my handy M-World card, confident I would get the promised 20% discount. Wankers! They say I need a printout of the mail to claim it. Of course, I had deleted the mail, and because it was in my spam, it got permanently removed. But the mindboggling stupidity of the whole operation!! You numbskulls, I got the email from YOU! YOUR COMPANY sent me the email because YOU have my information on your database, and all you need to do is just check your records to see whether I get the discount or not, but no, you will just plead ignorance and ask for a printout just so that I get thoroughly pissed. Well, you can keep your motherloving discount, you hear? I am off to Supreme Audio in Koti to pick up Lost Season 2, where I can get a 20% discount anyways. Nyaah nyaah nyaah.

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On Barry Windsor-Smith, and on Art Ownership

Barry Windsor-Smith began his career drawing early issues of Conan the Barbarian for Marvel comics. At that time he was creditted as Barry Smith, and legend has it that he was paid peanuts for this assignment, he accepted the assignment because he had been thrown out of his hotel, and he was working off park benches. The artist John Buscema, who followed Windsor-Smith’s 24 issue run on Conan with a mindboggling 166-issue run once said – “I know what (Barry) got paid (for Conan), and I’d be embarrassed to tell you how much it was, because I’d be embarrassed for Marvel.” But low pay notwithstanding, Barry Windsor-Smith , influenced by illustrators like Frank Frazetta (the man who drew the first popular representation of the sullen Barbarian, the long haired-muscular version that endures to this day) brought in a style and a story-telling capacity to Marvel’s adaptation of the pulp hero that would go on to define his career. He soon left Marvel comics, and went on to establish himself as a fantasy artist. He set up a commune called The Studio in the 1970s, along with fellow-artists Michael Kaluta, Jeff Jones and Bernie Wrightson, all of whom were superstar artists in their own right.

In the eighties, Barry Windsor-Smith would return to comics, writing and illustrating a Machine Man miniseries for Marvel and the acclaimed Weapon X origin story for Wolverine. (Way, way better than the limp Origin that came out much later) He also created the character Rune for Valiant comics in the 90’s, and also illustrated a couple of issues Archer and Armstrong. A stint at Dark Horse followed, with a line of original graphic novels such as Adastra in Africa and The Freebooters.

Windsor-Smith maintains a site which sells his work directly. Most of the work you will find for sale are really high-priced, even the sketches going above 500$ each. Makes a lot of sense actually, because he is a modern master.

But consider this, a recent update on his site sets a condition on people interested in buying his art. A Transfer and Sale agreement is included as a downloadable form, which the buyer must fill in and send to BWS Studios, after which he is allowed possession of the art. The terms include:

RETRANSFER: If Purchaser in any way whatsoever sells, gives, or trades the Work, if it is inherited from Purchaser, or if a third party pays compensation for its destruction, Purchaser (or the representative of his estate) must within thirty (30) days:

1. Pay Artist fifteen (15) % of the “gross art profit,” if any, on the transfer; and
2. Get the new owner to ratify this contract by signing a properly filled-out “Transfer Agreement and Record” (TAR); and
3. Deliver the signed TAR to the Artist;
4. “Gross art profit” for this contract means only: “Agreed value” on a TAR less the “agreed value” on the last prior TAR, or (if there hasn’t been a prior resale) less the agreed value in Paragraph I of this contract.
5. e. “Agreed value” to be filled in on each TAR shall be the actual sale price if the Work is sold for money or the fair market value at the time, if transferred any other way.

There are other clauses, including a Notice of Exhibition clause that makes it mandatory for the buyer to inform the artist if he’s exhibiting the work in a show, and an Artist’s Exhibition clause, by which the artist may show the work for 60 days once every five years, at a non-profit venue, and with prior notice to the buyer. The artist may also have access to photographing the work at any time, and will not allow destruction, restoration or reproduction of his work.

Needless to say, comic art collectors, quite a few of them, are peeved at caveats attached to what most people would consider a simple monetary exchange. Most of them say they would refuse to sign such a document even if the art came cheap or free, though there are some who see no problem with agreeing to all the conditions.

This makes an interesting point about conditional ownership, I thought. Especially taking into consideration the volatile, herd-driven status of the collectibles market.

Consider this case: Artist A sells one piece from comic The Amazing WhamBamPowMan to collector X for 200$. In two years, A goes on to win multiple awards with his Amazing WhamBanPowMan series, and becomes “hot”. Collector Y wants to own certain art pieces by A and finds out that X owns the piece that he wants the most. X refuses to sell him the piece. Y has got deep pockets, and X opts to go for “crazy money”, a term derisively used in comic art collecting for insanely-high amounts quoted by collectors for pieces they own, to discourage buyers from pestering them, and partly to push the envelope. (One famous instance of “crazy money” is artist Kevin Eastman’s announcement about the artwork for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles#1 being on sale. The asking price? One million dollars.) Coming back to our discussion, X quotes a four figure sum to Y, say, 6000$ for that single page. Y obliges. Where does that leave the artist? If he had held on to his artwork for some more time, he would have made 6000$! Taking this a bit further, Y goes on to sell to another collector for 10000$. And remember, this is not a long-term happening, it’s a 5-year, maximum 10-year time difference between all these transactions happening. All the parties concerned are still alive and kicking.

“Yes,” you might say. “But all said and done, artist A is still working. He can paint and sell his pieces at higher rates, forget the older piece. Life goes on.” The problem here is that there’s a nostalgia value attached to a certain piece of comicbook art – which is what makes every page so unique. Think about Steve Bissette/John Totleben’s run on Swamp Thing, or David Lloyd’s on V For Vendetta. Later works by these artists would not appreciate as much as a page from either of these two series would.

Personally, I think it makes quite a bit of sense for an artist, especially an artist who is so sellable, to attach such a condition on his work. Look at it this way, if a collector is buying art as a short-term investment, he will look elsewhere. Potential touts, people who lap up art by hot fringe artists to make a killing later will be discouraged, to an extent. The “crazy money” mentality might also come down a bit. All in all, I find this an encouraging step for those collectors who love the artists’ work, and who view the art as something that can be exhibited on their walls for quite some time. A recent trend has been that the “hot” artists price their original artwork rather high in the first place. For the price of an Enrique Breccia Swamp Thing piece or a John Cassaday Astonishing X-Men splash, you can actually buy quite a bit of artwork by seventies masters like Gil Kane and John Buscema. The reason for the high price, of course, is to make sure that the artist does not lose out on the money the seller will make on the piece if it’s initially priced low, and goes on to become “hot”.

Now let me just go back drool over BWS art pieces.

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